SUMMARY
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Pamela Slim is a business coach and co-founder of K’é Main Street Learning Lab, a grassroots community-based think tank for small business acceleration. She is also the author of multiple works, including Body of Work, Escape from Cubicle Nation , and The Widest Net. Today, Jonathan and Pamela engage in a rich discussion on building empathy and trust with clients and the importance of having a values-based mission and vision. Pamela speaks to her earliest experiences with money, explains The Ecosystem Model from her book, The Widest Net , and shares what motivates and inspires her to continue the work she’s doing.

TAKEAWAYS
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00:56 – Pamela Slim shares how early lessons on money shaped how she views finances today
07:31 – Corporate coaching, a passion for grassroots economic change, and escaping Cubicle Nation
12:22 – How Pamela defines success with her clients/Helping people make better decision about earning money
15:16 – Common goals and fears Pamela has observed from the clients she works with
21:19 – Pamela speaks to her book, The Widest Net
26:05 – The metaphor of business systems and farming
28:32 – Why strong mission and value statements are essential to Pamela’s method
36:02 – The Ecosystem Model, explained
41:41 – The last thing Pamela changed her mind about
45:22 – One thing that Pamela wishes people knew about her
48:23 – Jonathan thanks Pamela for joining the show and lets listeners know where to connect with her

QUOTES
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“I spent a lot of time abroad. In that path, I have always been and always will be very passionate about grassroots economic change. Not a top-down model where you parachute in a model from elsewhere or a bunch of money from elsewhere, but really harnessing the strength and skills from folks that are on the ground.” (08:28)

“My role, and what I tell every client when we start working together, is really to support and strengthen their leadership so they feel better, stronger, and more capable. I help them to be more secure in their decisions, more grounded in their own identity, more sure about their own point of view and their own thought leadership.” (13:10)

ABOUT MINDFUL MONEY
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Do you struggle with money? You’re not alone.
Money is a means, not an end. It’s a necessity of life for sure, but more money does not always guarantee a “good life”. Money enables many aspects of modern life, but as a dominant consideration it becomes destructive.
The paradox is that more time and energy spent on personal finance does NOT create better outcomes. Unlike many other parts of life, we can’t create better outcomes by being smarter, spending more time, or putting in more effort.
Join Mindful Money author and experienced 40-year investor Jonathan DeYoe as he shares stories from artists, authors, entrepreneurs, and other advisors about how they mindfully minimize their need to think about money and get more out of life.
If you aren’t happy with your finances, feel like money takes more time that it should, or want to place your financial decisions into the broader context of your life, this show is for you.
Each episode will draw the line between the “enough” activities that the academics tell us are additive to family outcomes, and those “little bit more” efforts that take time and sap energy, but do NOT improve outcomes.

GUEST RESOURCES
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Pamela’s Website – https://pamelaslim.com/ke/
Pamela’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelaslim
Pamela’s Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/pamslim/?hl=en
Pamela’s Books:
Body of Work – https://www.amazon.com/Body-Work-Finding-Thread-Together/dp/1591846196/ref=asc_df_1591846196/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312111907622&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15152070695528859851&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004216&hvtargid=pla-453838270925&psc=1
Escape From Cubicle Nation – https://www.amazon.com/Escape-Cubicle-Nation-Corporate-Entrepreneur/dp/0425232840/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9S8GZ30OKNH&keywords=escape+from+cubicle+nation&qid=1651164531&s=books&sprefix=escape+from+cubicle+nation%2Cstripbooks%2C93&sr=1-1
The Widest Net – https://www.amazon.com/Widest-Net-Untapped-Discover-Customers/dp/1264266790

MINDFUL MONEY RESOURCES
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